WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:02.730 hey guys i am cable giddings coming 2 00:00:02.730 --> 00:00:05.040 to you from the taurus usa headquarters 3 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:06.660 where i've had to carefully cropped my 4 00:00:06.660 --> 00:00:08.130 shot to make sure that there isn't 5 00:00:08.130 --> 00:00:09.870 anything in the background they are not 6 00:00:09.870 --> 00:00:10.920 supposed to see yet 7 00:00:13.740 --> 00:00:18.120 a punch coming from my house where 8 00:00:18.210 --> 00:00:22.380 as as the where you've also had 9 00:00:22.380 --> 00:00:23.760 to carefully crop your shot to make 10 00:00:23.760 --> 00:00:26.850 it look like you're wearing clothes don't 11 00:00:26.850 --> 00:00:28.710 give that away i stand up and 12 00:00:28.710 --> 00:00:29.910 that's the big reveal 13 00:00:31.290 --> 00:00:34.620 a bigger deal in the well media 14 00:00:34.843 --> 00:00:39.480 reveal that the respectably sized reveal the 15 00:00:39.480 --> 00:00:43.410 reveal that happened is certainly a panic 16 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.090 well that was a great way to 17 00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:46.530 start off this episode which is brought 18 00:00:46.530 --> 00:00:48.540 to you by tourist usa and guts 19 00:00:48.540 --> 00:00:51.030 dot com tours usa were affordable 20 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:52.830 does not mean sheep and guns dot 21 00:00:52.830 --> 00:00:55.830 com more affordable means by to ah 22 00:00:56.040 --> 00:00:59.550 the rigours of art so this week 23 00:00:59.550 --> 00:01:01.590 we're talking about ah 24 00:01:01.680 --> 00:01:03.000 what's the best way to explain it 25 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:05.130 we're talking about things that people think 26 00:01:05.130 --> 00:01:08.700 are features that are actually bugs and 27 00:01:08.730 --> 00:01:10.680 how they arrived at that conclusion and 28 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:12.270 this was brought to you by a 29 00:01:12.270 --> 00:01:14.430 person in our comments who didn't understand 30 00:01:14.430 --> 00:01:18.210 how green tip works yes yes i 31 00:01:18.270 --> 00:01:19.920 i don't even remember we went on 32 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.389 a little side tangent we've been on 33 00:01:21.390 --> 00:01:21.750 many 34 00:01:21.840 --> 00:01:22.980 tangents last week 35 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:25.710 we went to go on a side 36 00:01:25.710 --> 00:01:28.470 tangent about this here green to brown 37 00:01:28.500 --> 00:01:30.150 and a five five the good old 38 00:01:30.180 --> 00:01:32.700 ss one or none and someone helpfully 39 00:01:32.700 --> 00:01:34.140 in our comment section and i'm not 40 00:01:34.140 --> 00:01:36.420 making fun of this guy cause i 41 00:01:36.420 --> 00:01:38.940 kind of understand all do there you 42 00:01:38.940 --> 00:01:40.920 can but i'm not looking for originally 43 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:42.840 i was going to then i thought 44 00:01:42.840 --> 00:01:44.160 about it i'm like look with the 45 00:01:44.190 --> 00:01:47.160 missing data i can understand the conclusion 46 00:01:48.240 --> 00:01:50.310 but he came into the comments section 47 00:01:50.520 --> 00:01:53.460 and said hey ss one o nine 48 00:01:53.460 --> 00:01:56.070 was developed by fn for the mini 49 00:01:56.070 --> 00:01:58.050 me which a version of it is 50 00:01:58.050 --> 00:01:59.790 the m two forty nine saw another 51 00:01:59.790 --> 00:02:01.500 version of the invoice or the mark 52 00:02:01.500 --> 00:02:03.750 forty six light machine gun it's the 53 00:02:03.750 --> 00:02:05.430 five five six belt that it's athens 54 00:02:05.430 --> 00:02:06.540 five five six belt that 55 00:02:07.740 --> 00:02:09.450 but green tip was developed for the 56 00:02:09.450 --> 00:02:12.360 mini-me it wasn't but they were developed 57 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:13.350 at the same time 58 00:02:14.430 --> 00:02:16.020 so he goes green tip was developed 59 00:02:16.020 --> 00:02:18.300 for the mini-me and it is inaccurate 60 00:02:18.390 --> 00:02:22.380 on purpose so that you're suppressing fire 61 00:02:22.890 --> 00:02:25.110 is better dispersed 62 00:02:26.272 --> 00:02:28.110 he goes their enemy the enemy won't 63 00:02:28.110 --> 00:02:30.030 know where the next bullet is coming 64 00:02:30.030 --> 00:02:32.910 from right to because you're familiar and 65 00:02:32.940 --> 00:02:34.560 i can reason some people are not 66 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.290 familiar with how machine guns work but 67 00:02:37.350 --> 00:02:40.320 the area in which you're the rounds 68 00:02:40.320 --> 00:02:42.360 from a machine gun mount raw machine 69 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:43.800 gun land is referred to as the 70 00:02:43.800 --> 00:02:46.320 beaten zone right so 71 00:02:46.320 --> 00:02:47.880 all the beaten so if i fire 72 00:02:47.880 --> 00:02:52.050 a burst of six rounds from two 73 00:02:52.050 --> 00:02:55.020 forty nine those six rounds will land 74 00:02:55.020 --> 00:02:57.540 in a roughly conical pattern in what 75 00:02:57.540 --> 00:02:59.490 we call the beaten zone they do 76 00:02:59.490 --> 00:03:02.010 that because how machine gun do machine 77 00:03:02.010 --> 00:03:04.560 gun right like they they will do 78 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.300 that whether that gun is 79 00:03:06.492 --> 00:03:08.490 half minute of angle accurate or three 80 00:03:08.490 --> 00:03:10.770 minute of angle accurate yet recoil you 81 00:03:10.770 --> 00:03:13.050 can carry eight and you can create 82 00:03:13.050 --> 00:03:15.000 your own sort of beat zone even 83 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.310 with semi automatic fire just by you 84 00:03:17.310 --> 00:03:19.440 know aiming at your target and just 85 00:03:19.440 --> 00:03:20.670 pulling the trigger as fast as you 86 00:03:20.670 --> 00:03:23.070 can it will largely have or use 87 00:03:23.070 --> 00:03:25.470 that as the justification for why the 88 00:03:25.470 --> 00:03:26.640 m twenty seven was 89 00:03:26.670 --> 00:03:28.200 going to work at the squad level 90 00:03:28.680 --> 00:03:30.810 and they're not while i can quibble 91 00:03:30.810 --> 00:03:33.240 about getting rid of belt feds in 92 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:35.010 that regard that's a whole other argument 93 00:03:35.460 --> 00:03:39.270 they are also not wrong some certainly 94 00:03:39.270 --> 00:03:41.430 very accurately being able to put you 95 00:03:41.430 --> 00:03:44.190 know two rounds a second around and 96 00:03:44.201 --> 00:03:46.620 a half a second into an area 97 00:03:46.650 --> 00:03:46.800 at 98 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:49.110 at any given effective ranger that gun 99 00:03:50.043 --> 00:03:52.260 is pretty effective at suppressing that area 100 00:03:53.310 --> 00:03:56.160 yeah i am pretty sure that we've 101 00:03:56.160 --> 00:03:57.990 done like at least this tangent six 102 00:03:57.990 --> 00:03:59.460 or seven times about how we both 103 00:03:59.460 --> 00:04:02.490 agree that the marine corps back during 104 00:04:02.490 --> 00:04:04.980 everybody it back during their entire branch 105 00:04:04.980 --> 00:04:07.620 into getting suppressed m twenty seven just 106 00:04:07.620 --> 00:04:09.270 as their standard issue rifle is the 107 00:04:09.270 --> 00:04:11.850 best at conveying ever explains the greatest 108 00:04:11.880 --> 00:04:13.440 we totally didn't do that guy 109 00:04:13.440 --> 00:04:16.440 guys quiet it links off camera yet 110 00:04:16.468 --> 00:04:18.540 we didn't do this on purpose but 111 00:04:18.540 --> 00:04:20.550 we did and now we look at 112 00:04:20.550 --> 00:04:25.110 this crazy random happenstance that all art 113 00:04:25.110 --> 00:04:27.270 but in short guys dragged me the 114 00:04:27.330 --> 00:04:30.060 claimed feature is m eight five five 115 00:04:30.150 --> 00:04:33.600 is inaccurate on purpose to ink 116 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:35.490 increase the size of the beaten zone 117 00:04:36.210 --> 00:04:37.920 and machine guns don't need to do 118 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:41.880 that now they do that they will 119 00:04:41.880 --> 00:04:43.830 get they will get plenty of dispersion 120 00:04:43.860 --> 00:04:47.730 on their own and the what what 121 00:04:47.760 --> 00:04:51.060 essentially came about is oh green tips 122 00:04:51.060 --> 00:04:52.800 and accurate on purpose they actually no 123 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:53.760 it's not it's in 124 00:04:53.790 --> 00:04:57.000 accurate and unfortunately due to 125 00:04:58.440 --> 00:05:02.430 and manufacturing how you build this fear 126 00:05:02.550 --> 00:05:05.400 this is lead with a seven grain 127 00:05:05.400 --> 00:05:07.170 steel tip that you've got to put 128 00:05:07.170 --> 00:05:08.220 on top of it you have to 129 00:05:08.220 --> 00:05:09.690 have a machine put it there and 130 00:05:09.690 --> 00:05:10.950 then you have to jacket over it 131 00:05:11.460 --> 00:05:13.620 and you can only do that so 132 00:05:13.620 --> 00:05:14.460 precisely 133 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:16.620 so 134 00:05:17.850 --> 00:05:20.940 yeah they might be more accurate than 135 00:05:21.930 --> 00:05:23.610 an one ninety three which is just 136 00:05:23.670 --> 00:05:25.440 fifty five grains of lead cord in 137 00:05:25.440 --> 00:05:27.030 a jacket but this is easier to 138 00:05:27.030 --> 00:05:30.990 make more consistent so yeah the idea 139 00:05:30.990 --> 00:05:32.310 for m h i five was to 140 00:05:32.310 --> 00:05:35.808 be more accurate round then ah 141 00:05:37.200 --> 00:05:38.670 and one of the big thank you 142 00:05:38.670 --> 00:05:40.320 yeah when and when any three it 143 00:05:40.320 --> 00:05:42.120 didn't end up being that way and 144 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:43.560 especially part of it too is the 145 00:05:43.590 --> 00:05:45.480 we ended up you know i think 146 00:05:45.510 --> 00:05:46.980 it i think it also did suffer 147 00:05:46.980 --> 00:05:49.050 from an unfair comparison because the guns 148 00:05:49.050 --> 00:05:50.700 that most commonly shot 'em a five 149 00:05:50.700 --> 00:05:53.099 five were sixteen or fourteen point five 150 00:05:53.100 --> 00:05:55.770 inch carbines or you know two forty 151 00:05:55.770 --> 00:05:56.880 nine verse 152 00:05:56.970 --> 00:05:59.670 the guns that most commonly shot one 153 00:05:59.670 --> 00:06:02.040 ninety three were twenty inch muskets which 154 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:03.930 are just going to be more inherently 155 00:06:03.930 --> 00:06:07.710 accurate anyways so a lot more barrel 156 00:06:07.710 --> 00:06:10.230 to keep that thing screaming downrange but 157 00:06:10.230 --> 00:06:11.430 it's one of the reasons that we 158 00:06:11.430 --> 00:06:14.460 saw such a dramatic accuracy performance shift 159 00:06:14.670 --> 00:06:17.010 when we went to this guy and 160 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:19.830 they one good old wonder where you 161 00:06:19.830 --> 00:06:22.290 got that from i don't know it 162 00:06:22.290 --> 00:06:25.650 just appeared one day he showed up 163 00:06:25.650 --> 00:06:27.750 at my house it's the damnedest thing 164 00:06:28.950 --> 00:06:30.897 as crazy as it sounds lately the 165 00:06:30.904 --> 00:06:34.110 hapless yeah but so since i am 166 00:06:34.110 --> 00:06:36.060 not supposed to have this theoretical bullet 167 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:37.890 that doesn't exist in the civilian market 168 00:06:38.670 --> 00:06:40.770 this this guy was much easier to 169 00:06:40.770 --> 00:06:43.260 make because this a solid copper with 170 00:06:43.260 --> 00:06:44.730 a steel tip that's way easier to 171 00:06:44.790 --> 00:06:48.540 build and build consistently so the accuracy 172 00:06:48.540 --> 00:06:48.891 went up 173 00:06:48.990 --> 00:06:50.760 everyone's like odd so much better it's 174 00:06:50.760 --> 00:06:52.380 like actually just did the thing that 175 00:06:52.380 --> 00:06:54.180 you were trying to do correct vista 176 00:06:55.380 --> 00:06:57.000 it's so much better but very useful 177 00:06:57.480 --> 00:06:58.860 it's like the opposite of that we 178 00:06:58.860 --> 00:07:00.600 have trained him wrong on purpose meme 179 00:07:00.600 --> 00:07:04.050 it's like no correct on purpose whatever 180 00:07:04.050 --> 00:07:07.200 idea guys so that that is an 181 00:07:07.200 --> 00:07:10.890 example of knowledge of a feature that 182 00:07:10.890 --> 00:07:12.300 is in fact a bug the bug 183 00:07:12.300 --> 00:07:14.370 is that you cannot place the steel 184 00:07:14.370 --> 00:07:15.360 tip inside green 185 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:18.420 mean green tip more than a certain 186 00:07:18.420 --> 00:07:20.276 level of accuracy which makes it two 187 00:07:20.276 --> 00:07:22.202 to four minute ammo there's no getting 188 00:07:22.202 --> 00:07:24.120 around or stood for minute ammo it's 189 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:26.430 oh my god it's minutes 190 00:07:27.090 --> 00:07:29.700 however imagine our size targeted three hundred 191 00:07:29.700 --> 00:07:32.010 yards oh no 192 00:07:32.940 --> 00:07:35.070 so that it's an example so we're 193 00:07:35.070 --> 00:07:35.970 going to go into a couple of 194 00:07:35.970 --> 00:07:39.300 other examples of features that are in 195 00:07:39.300 --> 00:07:42.030 fact bugs i'm gonna talk about one 196 00:07:42.030 --> 00:07:44.310 first i got ill out this and 197 00:07:44.310 --> 00:07:46.320 this is i'm going to actually because 198 00:07:46.320 --> 00:07:47.610 i happened to be standing in my 199 00:07:47.610 --> 00:07:49.620 office in forest he said i can 200 00:07:49.620 --> 00:07:52.635 bring out a thing that illustrates this 201 00:07:52.650 --> 00:07:52.800 so 202 00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:55.200 so on this wonderful and amazing if 203 00:07:55.200 --> 00:07:57.450 you're watching the video feed cores six 204 00:07:57.450 --> 00:08:00.360 ninety two executive green available with three 205 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:02.400 fifty seven magnum or nine millimeter switch 206 00:08:02.400 --> 00:08:05.100 cylinder capabilities it has this on it 207 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.502 this is a hammer spur hammers for 208 00:08:07.502 --> 00:08:10.230 his ariz hammer spurs are a bug 209 00:08:10.440 --> 00:08:11.820 they are not a feature but people 210 00:08:11.820 --> 00:08:12.907 think they are a feature in the 211 00:08:12.907 --> 00:08:12.960 rye 212 00:08:12.960 --> 00:08:14.460 reason people think that their feature is 213 00:08:14.460 --> 00:08:17.040 because shooting a double action revolver is 214 00:08:17.220 --> 00:08:19.620 you know difficult so they think hey 215 00:08:19.620 --> 00:08:20.610 this is a feature i'm going to 216 00:08:20.610 --> 00:08:21.870 just pull this back and i'm going 217 00:08:21.870 --> 00:08:23.100 to get it into the single action 218 00:08:23.100 --> 00:08:24.630 mode and then i'm going to have 219 00:08:24.960 --> 00:08:26.190 on this good lord that's a good 220 00:08:26.190 --> 00:08:28.740 sugar people that have been i know 221 00:08:28.740 --> 00:08:30.150 this because i want my gun to 222 00:08:30.150 --> 00:08:31.050 ship caleb 223 00:08:32.160 --> 00:08:34.800 a gun like this is actually your 224 00:08:34.800 --> 00:08:35.130 god 225 00:08:37.860 --> 00:08:40.830 so the ok so here's the thing 226 00:08:40.860 --> 00:08:43.890 why are hammer spurs a bug and 227 00:08:43.890 --> 00:08:45.720 not a feature the reason that they're 228 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.550 a bug not a feature is because 229 00:08:47.550 --> 00:08:51.720 they enable people to essentially most people 230 00:08:51.720 --> 00:08:53.910 that shoot your da revolvers in single 231 00:08:53.910 --> 00:08:55.410 action use the hammer spur as a 232 00:08:55.410 --> 00:08:56.460 crutch and they use it as a 233 00:08:56.460 --> 00:08:57.360 crutch because the da 234 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:58.920 he is hard and they're like well 235 00:08:58.920 --> 00:09:00.840 i will just pull the hammer back 236 00:09:00.870 --> 00:09:02.580 get an easy trigger press and i 237 00:09:02.580 --> 00:09:05.610 won't do anything or take any steps 238 00:09:05.610 --> 00:09:08.250 to get better at shooting i will 239 00:09:08.250 --> 00:09:11.640 just go the easy route and we 240 00:09:11.640 --> 00:09:14.067 ended up on with hammers spurs on 241 00:09:14.067 --> 00:09:17.250 guns because of two things one the 242 00:09:17.250 --> 00:09:17.520 co 243 00:09:17.520 --> 00:09:19.830 a single action army that was the 244 00:09:19.830 --> 00:09:24.000 first thing the preponderance of revolvers in 245 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:28.230 the eighteen hundreds were single action and 246 00:09:28.230 --> 00:09:30.690 that baked the idea of cocking the 247 00:09:30.690 --> 00:09:32.400 hammer and shooting the gun in single 248 00:09:32.400 --> 00:09:35.040 action into people's psyche to the point 249 00:09:35.040 --> 00:09:36.870 that if you look at b grips 250 00:09:36.930 --> 00:09:37.680 and the hammer 251 00:09:37.680 --> 00:09:40.320 mers an early double action revolvers the 252 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:41.850 grips and the hammers are set up 253 00:09:41.850 --> 00:09:44.100 specifically to place the hand high on 254 00:09:44.100 --> 00:09:46.230 the gun so that you have easy 255 00:09:46.230 --> 00:09:48.030 access when shooting one handed because that's 256 00:09:48.030 --> 00:09:49.470 how we did it nineteen thirty three 257 00:09:50.100 --> 00:09:52.230 when shooting one handed to access the 258 00:09:52.230 --> 00:09:54.210 hammer spur pull the hammer back and 259 00:09:54.210 --> 00:09:56.700 press the trigger in fact i believe 260 00:09:56.700 --> 00:09:57.840 it's the n y a p 261 00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.840 pd pistol qual from like the nineteen 262 00:10:00.840 --> 00:10:04.830 thirties has single action prone shooting at 263 00:10:04.830 --> 00:10:08.490 fifty yards which is getting bananas and 264 00:10:08.910 --> 00:10:10.260 i like it i like that i 265 00:10:10.260 --> 00:10:11.490 know i love it it's actually a 266 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:13.290 phone call letter about it 267 00:10:14.875 --> 00:10:17.005 at your i agree it is a 268 00:10:17.305 --> 00:10:20.005 bug not a feature however i do 269 00:10:20.005 --> 00:10:23.125 like for a couple of reasons number 270 00:10:23.125 --> 00:10:25.315 one is aesthetics and that's the overriding 271 00:10:25.315 --> 00:10:27.655 reason i like how it looks i 272 00:10:27.655 --> 00:10:30.475 understand like how it looks equally then 273 00:10:30.475 --> 00:10:33.355 train so you like how it looks 274 00:10:33.355 --> 00:10:35.035 because you've been trained to like hell 275 00:10:35.035 --> 00:10:38.185 it looks like if no modern revolvers 276 00:10:38.185 --> 00:10:39.925 had hammer or spurs you wouldn't know 277 00:10:39.971 --> 00:10:42.865 they were missing aesthetically and then as 278 00:10:42.865 --> 00:10:46.135 far as shooting groups or zeroing iron 279 00:10:46.165 --> 00:10:50.095 or ziering adjustable sights some guns are 280 00:10:50.095 --> 00:10:51.805 certain smith and wesson will produce a 281 00:10:51.805 --> 00:10:53.665 different point of impact when you shoot 282 00:10:53.665 --> 00:10:55.195 them a single action versus if you 283 00:10:55.226 --> 00:10:57.925 just roll the trigger in da i 284 00:10:57.925 --> 00:11:00.175 sink it and that's because of the 285 00:11:00.175 --> 00:11:01.825 way the gun locks up and the 286 00:11:01.825 --> 00:11:04.375 way everything comes together when you're holding 287 00:11:04.375 --> 00:11:05.965 it when like here's the thing if 288 00:11:05.965 --> 00:11:07.497 you want to shoot your gun and 289 00:11:07.497 --> 00:11:09.835 like t i and here's the thing 290 00:11:09.835 --> 00:11:11.785 that i had come to accept rightly 291 00:11:12.175 --> 00:11:13.675 geno and this was a lesson that 292 00:11:13.675 --> 00:11:15.354 we learned the hard way with 293 00:11:15.355 --> 00:11:17.335 eight fifty six executive grade because we 294 00:11:17.335 --> 00:11:20.005 built that gun for nerds when we 295 00:11:20.005 --> 00:11:22.405 built it you know bobbed hammer and 296 00:11:22.405 --> 00:11:25.225 a bunch of other stuff and the 297 00:11:25.315 --> 00:11:27.715 preponderance of consumers were like i need 298 00:11:27.715 --> 00:11:30.625 a hammer spur and so i have 299 00:11:30.685 --> 00:11:34.585 come to this place where i know 300 00:11:34.915 --> 00:11:35.515 that now 301 00:11:35.545 --> 00:11:37.795 ninety percent of consumers want hammer spurs 302 00:11:37.795 --> 00:11:40.165 on their revolvers i also know that 303 00:11:40.165 --> 00:11:41.455 ninety per cent into those kinds of 304 00:11:41.455 --> 00:11:43.225 consumers the ones who want hammer spurs 305 00:11:43.225 --> 00:11:45.595 on their revolvers or or when they're 306 00:11:45.595 --> 00:11:48.505 wrong it's that they're wrong and i 307 00:11:48.505 --> 00:11:50.215 will do everything i can and i 308 00:11:50.215 --> 00:11:53.335 will stand athwart the tides of history 309 00:11:53.335 --> 00:11:55.225 and try to change that and educate 310 00:11:55.225 --> 00:11:55.675 everybody 311 00:11:55.735 --> 00:11:56.695 and get them to get rid of 312 00:11:56.695 --> 00:11:59.785 their hammered spurs but i will never 313 00:11:59.785 --> 00:12:01.465 one hundred percent accomplish that mission and 314 00:12:01.465 --> 00:12:03.265 so as long as i am doing 315 00:12:03.265 --> 00:12:05.065 my job correctly i will sell you 316 00:12:05.065 --> 00:12:06.175 a gun with a hammer spur and 317 00:12:06.175 --> 00:12:07.645 i will take your frickin money because 318 00:12:07.735 --> 00:12:09.115 gosh darn it if that's what the 319 00:12:09.115 --> 00:12:11.545 market once then sometimes people deserve to 320 00:12:11.545 --> 00:12:14.035 get what they want it comes down 321 00:12:14.035 --> 00:12:15.715 to the old adage 322 00:12:15.835 --> 00:12:18.595 of the customer is always right in 323 00:12:18.595 --> 00:12:22.225 matters of taste yet also wrapped in 324 00:12:22.225 --> 00:12:24.145 a matter of function they're not they're 325 00:12:24.145 --> 00:12:26.695 not entitled to their own facts but 326 00:12:26.695 --> 00:12:28.045 what they like is what they like 327 00:12:29.395 --> 00:12:31.375 they like casper i am one of 328 00:12:31.375 --> 00:12:33.715 those i like hammer spur i shoot 329 00:12:33.715 --> 00:12:35.785 double edged boulders and double action but 330 00:12:35.785 --> 00:12:37.855 i still like cameras for yeah and 331 00:12:37.855 --> 00:12:39.055 if you want a hammer spur that's 332 00:12:39.055 --> 00:12:40.285 fine you can be wrong about it 333 00:12:40.285 --> 00:12:41.485 and i just literally just said this 334 00:12:41.485 --> 00:12:42.625 your guy on the internet and like 335 00:12:43.045 --> 00:12:44.005 and i'm sure he's going to come 336 00:12:44.005 --> 00:12:45.835 back with those are your official opinion 337 00:12:45.835 --> 00:12:49.015 as doors is marketing manager yes yes 338 00:12:49.015 --> 00:12:49.285 it is 339 00:12:49.465 --> 00:12:50.725 is there guys in mia 340 00:12:51.895 --> 00:12:53.845 it isn't it is it is torres 341 00:12:53.845 --> 00:12:55.795 on my shirt my official opinion is 342 00:12:55.795 --> 00:12:57.745 an employee of the largest importer of 343 00:12:57.745 --> 00:13:00.985 revolvers in the world is hammer spurs 344 00:13:00.985 --> 00:13:02.275 are dumb and you shouldn't want them 345 00:13:02.275 --> 00:13:04.195 on your guns but the other part 346 00:13:04.195 --> 00:13:06.925 of that opinion is if you want 347 00:13:06.925 --> 00:13:08.665 one i will sell you one and 348 00:13:08.665 --> 00:13:09.955 i will do it with a great 349 00:13:09.955 --> 00:13:11.665 big ear to ear smile on my 350 00:13:11.665 --> 00:13:11.995 face 351 00:13:12.025 --> 00:13:12.805 because 352 00:13:13.975 --> 00:13:16.345 there is a rightness to the market 353 00:13:16.555 --> 00:13:20.455 that supersedes the technical rightness that i 354 00:13:20.455 --> 00:13:22.705 have right i am technically correct and 355 00:13:22.705 --> 00:13:25.045 i am correct from a fundamentals any 356 00:13:25.045 --> 00:13:27.175 technique and an employment and or an 357 00:13:27.175 --> 00:13:30.415 ai utilization point of view but if 358 00:13:30.595 --> 00:13:31.675 there if but if i sell one 359 00:13:31.675 --> 00:13:33.895 hundred thousand revolvers and ninety five thousand 360 00:13:33.895 --> 00:13:34.075 of them 361 00:13:34.135 --> 00:13:35.695 have hammers first sense what the market 362 00:13:35.695 --> 00:13:36.625 wants i'm not going to lose any 363 00:13:36.625 --> 00:13:39.565 sleep over that either but it it's 364 00:13:39.625 --> 00:13:41.455 you you go back down to it 365 00:13:41.485 --> 00:13:43.345 in some ways it's semantics it's like 366 00:13:43.345 --> 00:13:44.755 a bunch of people keep calling things 367 00:13:44.755 --> 00:13:46.435 clips and you're like their magazines but 368 00:13:46.435 --> 00:13:48.325 whatever if i saw one hundred of 369 00:13:48.325 --> 00:13:50.035 them fine also your clips all back 370 00:13:50.455 --> 00:13:52.975 exactly i said are you speaking of 371 00:13:53.005 --> 00:13:54.205 cliffs i 372 00:13:54.445 --> 00:13:55.945 ah i was out for a run 373 00:13:56.245 --> 00:13:58.105 the other day and for the last 374 00:13:58.105 --> 00:14:00.595 you know four hundred meters i i 375 00:14:00.685 --> 00:14:02.335 i i sprinted out like whatever i've 376 00:14:02.335 --> 00:14:05.035 got left in the tank right and 377 00:14:05.035 --> 00:14:07.555 i started and didn't wanna do it 378 00:14:07.765 --> 00:14:09.085 and i am i'm very much one 379 00:14:09.085 --> 00:14:10.585 of those like talks to myself when 380 00:14:10.585 --> 00:14:12.145 i'm working out people and i was 381 00:14:12.145 --> 00:14:13.732 like let's go empty the mother and 382 00:14:13.732 --> 00:14:14.155 clip 383 00:14:14.485 --> 00:14:16.825 and i laugh as i'm running because 384 00:14:16.825 --> 00:14:18.235 i'm like if someone on the internet 385 00:14:18.235 --> 00:14:19.915 heard me say that they're like oh 386 00:14:19.915 --> 00:14:21.595 you mean him to the magazine to 387 00:14:21.595 --> 00:14:23.635 which i reply you're morbidly obese i'm 388 00:14:23.635 --> 00:14:28.915 running all the way next die 389 00:14:30.355 --> 00:14:31.945 those are like when your mind goes 390 00:14:31.945 --> 00:14:33.865 to the other place when you're working 391 00:14:33.865 --> 00:14:37.045 out that would be ah that that 392 00:14:37.045 --> 00:14:38.185 that's where i was at i was 393 00:14:38.185 --> 00:14:40.285 in the other place i was not 394 00:14:40.615 --> 00:14:43.465 not present in my body but let's 395 00:14:43.855 --> 00:14:45.835 come off this tangent and talk about 396 00:14:46.315 --> 00:14:47.845 something else cook 397 00:14:49.465 --> 00:14:50.665 you know when you're in that has 398 00:14:50.665 --> 00:14:55.435 been fixed on this as caleb goes 399 00:14:55.435 --> 00:14:56.965 off screen but i'll start talking about 400 00:14:56.965 --> 00:14:58.825 it yeah you can certainly remember guys 401 00:14:59.125 --> 00:15:01.945 the old m and p series especially 402 00:15:02.275 --> 00:15:05.215 had a feature where if you slammed 403 00:15:05.215 --> 00:15:07.495 the magazine inside this gun hard enough 404 00:15:07.555 --> 00:15:09.115 the slow the auto forward 405 00:15:09.295 --> 00:15:11.395 the auto forward feature it was a 406 00:15:11.395 --> 00:15:13.195 feature right no guys there was a 407 00:15:13.195 --> 00:15:16.525 bug if it got through it went 408 00:15:16.525 --> 00:15:19.615 into production everything was golden and yeah 409 00:15:19.645 --> 00:15:21.745 it allows you to do a super 410 00:15:21.745 --> 00:15:23.965 fast reload if you did it right 411 00:15:24.205 --> 00:15:25.225 but if you did it wrong or 412 00:15:25.225 --> 00:15:27.589 slide would drop on nothing or it 413 00:15:27.685 --> 00:15:29.185 would have closer any 414 00:15:29.275 --> 00:15:31.015 any number of other issues it would 415 00:15:31.015 --> 00:15:33.325 cause about twelve issues and you could 416 00:15:33.325 --> 00:15:35.065 only ever get it right by like 417 00:15:35.485 --> 00:15:37.825 jamming this thing so far and instead 418 00:15:37.825 --> 00:15:40.075 of just getting like a smooth magazine 419 00:15:40.075 --> 00:15:41.905 click and then hitting the slide release 420 00:15:41.905 --> 00:15:43.615 or running the slide you know in 421 00:15:43.615 --> 00:15:45.475 a proper manner that works you know 422 00:15:45.535 --> 00:15:47.605 every time you had to slam that 423 00:15:47.605 --> 00:15:49.135 thing in it mark jesus to get 424 00:15:49.135 --> 00:15:49.435 the slow 425 00:15:49.435 --> 00:15:51.055 find to drop in that wasn't a 426 00:15:51.055 --> 00:15:52.675 good thing i like on the new 427 00:15:52.675 --> 00:15:54.055 two point oh and the metal frames 428 00:15:54.055 --> 00:15:55.525 that they gotten rid of that the 429 00:15:55.525 --> 00:15:58.675 slide aggressively old on to the slide 430 00:15:59.065 --> 00:16:01.105 and i as it should that because 431 00:16:01.405 --> 00:16:03.565 that is the feature i want out 432 00:16:03.565 --> 00:16:05.305 of the slide lock i want it 433 00:16:05.305 --> 00:16:07.255 to and i want the release to 434 00:16:07.255 --> 00:16:09.475 release when i tell it to with 435 00:16:09.475 --> 00:16:09.595 my 436 00:16:09.655 --> 00:16:13.495 thung todd talked about that actually here 437 00:16:13.877 --> 00:16:15.685 are tabular screen for those who don't 438 00:16:15.685 --> 00:16:17.485 know what i'm talking about he hated 439 00:16:17.485 --> 00:16:19.345 the auto forward on the m nps 440 00:16:19.435 --> 00:16:20.845 he was an unknown advocate of the 441 00:16:20.845 --> 00:16:23.425 mp to your point because he's like 442 00:16:23.425 --> 00:16:25.465 yeah i can get it right ninety 443 00:16:25.465 --> 00:16:27.055 seven percent of the time but that 444 00:16:27.055 --> 00:16:28.135 three percent of the time that it 445 00:16:28.135 --> 00:16:29.755 doesn't corrigan work i 446 00:16:29.755 --> 00:16:30.895 i don't have a round in the 447 00:16:30.895 --> 00:16:32.845 chamber and i really really want and 448 00:16:32.845 --> 00:16:34.495 like whether you're shooting an eighty pa 449 00:16:34.503 --> 00:16:36.115 match or a you know in an 450 00:16:36.115 --> 00:16:38.965 actual shooting and you do an emergency 451 00:16:38.965 --> 00:16:40.555 reload you really really want there to 452 00:16:40.555 --> 00:16:42.835 be a bullet there for when that 453 00:16:42.835 --> 00:16:44.995 slide goes forward and be like let's 454 00:16:45.025 --> 00:16:48.865 go and that reminds me of one 455 00:16:49.045 --> 00:16:49.915 that is a real 456 00:16:49.915 --> 00:16:51.955 very good i don't know if it's 457 00:16:52.105 --> 00:16:55.375 a bug per se but it's something 458 00:16:55.375 --> 00:16:57.865 that no one thought was a feature 459 00:16:57.895 --> 00:17:00.861 until marketing made it a feature and 460 00:17:00.865 --> 00:17:03.895 that's the tactile reset on a striker 461 00:17:03.895 --> 00:17:07.975 fired pistols trigger so for people who 462 00:17:07.975 --> 00:17:09.865 are under the age 463 00:17:10.135 --> 00:17:10.495 oh 464 00:17:11.725 --> 00:17:15.445 thirty five i'm gonna say the you 465 00:17:15.445 --> 00:17:17.815 have you have never lived in a 466 00:17:17.815 --> 00:17:22.705 world where a certain subset of consumers 467 00:17:22.885 --> 00:17:25.405 didn't care about what the reset on 468 00:17:25.405 --> 00:17:27.835 their striker fired pistols trigger was but 469 00:17:27.835 --> 00:17:30.565 when the lock came out 470 00:17:31.765 --> 00:17:33.445 one in one of the most brilliant 471 00:17:33.445 --> 00:17:35.125 marketing moves in the history of the 472 00:17:35.125 --> 00:17:38.065 gun industry they took the root cause 473 00:17:38.065 --> 00:17:39.834 the glock has a very calculator a 474 00:17:39.834 --> 00:17:42.475 loud reset they took that and they 475 00:17:42.485 --> 00:17:44.545 marketed as the feature like the can 476 00:17:44.545 --> 00:17:45.745 lids you know when it's ready to 477 00:17:45.745 --> 00:17:48.505 shoot again with a tactile reset which 478 00:17:48.505 --> 00:17:50.095 i'm like i'm pretty sure the fuckin 479 00:17:50.095 --> 00:17:51.655 guns ready sorry and language 480 00:17:51.835 --> 00:17:52.915 i'm pretty sure the guns ready to 481 00:17:52.915 --> 00:17:54.355 shoot again because i let go of 482 00:17:54.445 --> 00:17:57.655 the trigger but ok i'm coming we 483 00:17:57.655 --> 00:17:59.395 were coming from an age of of 484 00:17:59.395 --> 00:18:02.275 double action singles and an traditional bubble 485 00:18:02.275 --> 00:18:04.375 actions where you just ran the trigger 486 00:18:04.375 --> 00:18:05.612 out and then ran it back again 487 00:18:05.635 --> 00:18:07.017 then ran it out where it ran 488 00:18:07.045 --> 00:18:09.895 back into like the beretta has like 489 00:18:09.895 --> 00:18:11.995 the the m nine has a 490 00:18:12.025 --> 00:18:14.275 a you know attacked your audible reset 491 00:18:14.485 --> 00:18:16.075 but it's not like the glocks where 492 00:18:16.075 --> 00:18:18.475 it's a very like pronounced lock is 493 00:18:18.475 --> 00:18:22.015 extremely obvious about it which and so 494 00:18:22.045 --> 00:18:24.235 it's good it gives you two 495 00:18:25.675 --> 00:18:27.835 what that led to was so for 496 00:18:27.835 --> 00:18:29.065 those of you watching and keep looking 497 00:18:29.065 --> 00:18:30.805 at camera because my office here tourists 498 00:18:30.805 --> 00:18:32.845 is a fish bowl and people keep 499 00:18:32.845 --> 00:18:34.795 coming up to my door which i 500 00:18:34.795 --> 00:18:37.015 have locked so that they all stopped 501 00:18:37.015 --> 00:18:39.325 bothering me while i'm doing this but 502 00:18:39.325 --> 00:18:40.495 i have a recording studio i could 503 00:18:40.495 --> 00:18:42.235 have used but i didn't stupid ah 504 00:18:42.265 --> 00:18:45.595 so to stay back mia a tactic 505 00:18:45.595 --> 00:18:47.215 will error ah 506 00:18:47.305 --> 00:18:49.975 if if there ever was one ah 507 00:18:50.005 --> 00:18:54.267 so hopefully that worked and so do 508 00:18:54.267 --> 00:18:56.875 that what what definitely was a bug 509 00:18:56.875 --> 00:18:59.365 that came about from the tactile reset 510 00:18:59.395 --> 00:19:02.515 of the glock was the clickbank era 511 00:19:02.755 --> 00:19:05.725 of people who would ride the reset 512 00:19:05.935 --> 00:19:07.375 on their striker pilot 513 00:19:07.465 --> 00:19:10.435 fired semi semiautomatic pistol and that reset 514 00:19:10.465 --> 00:19:12.985 feeling that gun go click would be 515 00:19:12.985 --> 00:19:15.175 their permission to shoot again instead of 516 00:19:15.175 --> 00:19:16.825 looking at their sights and having that 517 00:19:16.825 --> 00:19:18.835 be their permission to shoot again so 518 00:19:18.835 --> 00:19:20.515 the the click bang era that was 519 00:19:20.515 --> 00:19:23.785 brought about by the marketing was definitely 520 00:19:23.845 --> 00:19:26.455 a was definitely a bug and i 521 00:19:26.455 --> 00:19:27.325 also remember like 522 00:19:27.625 --> 00:19:30.235 other striker fired pistols the mmp there 523 00:19:30.235 --> 00:19:31.615 your mvp is what made me think 524 00:19:31.615 --> 00:19:33.145 of this but you remember when the 525 00:19:33.145 --> 00:19:34.855 mmp first launched and people were like 526 00:19:35.005 --> 00:19:36.595 i don't like the reset on nes 527 00:19:36.625 --> 00:19:38.545 and i'm you know standing there and 528 00:19:38.545 --> 00:19:40.405 i i even said i was guilty 529 00:19:40.405 --> 00:19:42.548 of it because it was toy it 530 00:19:42.548 --> 00:19:44.185 was like oh the resets not as 531 00:19:44.185 --> 00:19:45.835 good and right 532 00:19:47.095 --> 00:19:49.315 with it there this is this is 533 00:19:49.315 --> 00:19:52.495 years this is immeasurable years with the 534 00:19:52.495 --> 00:19:55.315 original lemon pies before i even knew 535 00:19:55.315 --> 00:19:57.355 how to run a trigger well right 536 00:19:57.385 --> 00:19:59.755 right i did not know what i 537 00:19:59.755 --> 00:20:01.285 was talking about but i would say 538 00:20:01.285 --> 00:20:03.385 i don't like the reset or i 539 00:20:03.385 --> 00:20:04.735 did i did not know how to 540 00:20:04.735 --> 00:20:06.355 run a trigger well enough in order 541 00:20:06.355 --> 00:20:07.195 to deliver that appear 542 00:20:07.195 --> 00:20:09.025 then at that time so let me 543 00:20:09.025 --> 00:20:12.295 just say this will all probably clip 544 00:20:12.325 --> 00:20:13.645 this into a sound bite for the 545 00:20:13.645 --> 00:20:17.215 episode but in a defensive or action 546 00:20:17.215 --> 00:20:21.115 shooting firearm reset is the lead the 547 00:20:21.115 --> 00:20:23.515 trigger reset is the least important feature 548 00:20:23.515 --> 00:20:25.825 on the gun like it's less important 549 00:20:25.885 --> 00:20:27.355 than the size 550 00:20:27.935 --> 00:20:29.765 slide stop it's less him i can 551 00:20:29.767 --> 00:20:31.205 help you out in out in out 552 00:20:31.235 --> 00:20:32.495 in out in out in a i 553 00:20:32.495 --> 00:20:35.015 can't think of the oldest lamb your 554 00:20:35.015 --> 00:20:37.175 finger all the way outside the trigger 555 00:20:37.175 --> 00:20:38.855 guard and then back in you'll be 556 00:20:38.855 --> 00:20:40.955 fun i damn near do that if 557 00:20:40.955 --> 00:20:42.395 you guys ever seen videos of me 558 00:20:42.395 --> 00:20:44.375 shooting like if i go you know 559 00:20:44.375 --> 00:20:46.025 i normally shoot real guns if you 560 00:20:46.092 --> 00:20:48.035 there's a video of me she shoot 561 00:20:48.035 --> 00:20:49.625 a very quick build euro with a 562 00:20:49.625 --> 00:20:52.775 nineteen eleven and i come hump all 563 00:20:52.775 --> 00:20:54.485 the alley off the trigger like i'm 564 00:20:54.485 --> 00:20:55.865 like hitting the front of the trigger 565 00:20:55.865 --> 00:20:57.425 guard off the trigger and then coming 566 00:20:57.425 --> 00:20:59.705 back on and yet as if by 567 00:20:59.705 --> 00:21:01.355 magic i shoot all out i shot 568 00:21:01.355 --> 00:21:04.205 all alphas in like two two point 569 00:21:04.205 --> 00:21:05.855 three seconds with the forty five sep 570 00:21:06.065 --> 00:21:08.195 and so trigger reason 571 00:21:08.198 --> 00:21:10.445 said and how you reset the trigger 572 00:21:10.445 --> 00:21:13.535 is the least important part of defensive 573 00:21:13.535 --> 00:21:17.015 or action shooting and glock jack up 574 00:21:17.015 --> 00:21:19.025 an entire generation of shooters with their 575 00:21:19.025 --> 00:21:23.675 extremely effective marketing about tactile audible us 576 00:21:23.675 --> 00:21:28.025 audible rustle yet tactile audible reset you 577 00:21:28.025 --> 00:21:28.355 get out of 578 00:21:28.475 --> 00:21:31.175 faced with that i don't know doesn't 579 00:21:31.175 --> 00:21:32.795 matter that i was a good one 580 00:21:32.855 --> 00:21:35.885 ah man what a time i i 581 00:21:35.975 --> 00:21:37.595 it is funny like that as i 582 00:21:37.655 --> 00:21:40.745 i i have we have this conversation 583 00:21:40.745 --> 00:21:42.215 that i'm like oh man there's an 584 00:21:42.515 --> 00:21:46.115 entire the league for an entire generation 585 00:21:46.115 --> 00:21:47.435 of shooters they're you know that the 586 00:21:47.435 --> 00:21:48.515 people that are all younger than 587 00:21:48.545 --> 00:21:50.735 us and have never lived in a 588 00:21:50.735 --> 00:21:53.555 world where the reset of a striker 589 00:21:53.555 --> 00:21:55.475 fired pistol wasn't something that they probably 590 00:21:55.475 --> 00:21:57.065 thought about at least once or twice 591 00:21:57.245 --> 00:21:59.705 you know you know and members and 592 00:21:59.705 --> 00:22:03.425 a marketable feature in my entire gun 593 00:22:03.425 --> 00:22:05.885 owning a career right now is not 594 00:22:05.885 --> 00:22:07.925 a multiple it's been something that you 595 00:22:07.925 --> 00:22:08.675 can point to 596 00:22:09.095 --> 00:22:10.625 because when i got into this when 597 00:22:10.625 --> 00:22:12.695 i started teaching there they were already 598 00:22:12.695 --> 00:22:15.125 on the third generation of glock so 599 00:22:15.125 --> 00:22:17.165 this was a well as philip trigger 600 00:22:17.165 --> 00:22:19.535 reset was this well established thing that 601 00:22:19.535 --> 00:22:21.545 you had to kind of care or 602 00:22:21.545 --> 00:22:24.185 worry about for some reason they never 603 00:22:24.185 --> 00:22:25.955 got the reason you actually had to 604 00:22:25.955 --> 00:22:27.395 worry about it you were just supposed 605 00:22:27.395 --> 00:22:28.835 to that might be 606 00:22:28.835 --> 00:22:31.445 be the greatest marketing success in the 607 00:22:31.445 --> 00:22:33.095 history of the gun industry because they 608 00:22:33.095 --> 00:22:35.045 got and they got everyone to care 609 00:22:35.045 --> 00:22:37.205 about the least important part of shooting 610 00:22:38.555 --> 00:22:41.705 like it is needed or something with 611 00:22:41.705 --> 00:22:44.165 a clean double action trigger and no 612 00:22:44.165 --> 00:22:45.785 reset you're just coming off of it 613 00:22:46.595 --> 00:22:48.485 there's nothing there there's no you just 614 00:22:48.575 --> 00:22:50.135 have to wait for an audible tactile 615 00:22:50.135 --> 00:22:51.485 reset you just get off the trigger 616 00:22:51.725 --> 00:22:54.785 and start taking it again when demon 617 00:22:55.535 --> 00:22:58.595 bargains with like nice you know 618 00:22:58.595 --> 00:23:01.413 no sensory make the brain happy facto 619 00:23:01.413 --> 00:23:03.995 resets modern striker gas when you run 620 00:23:03.995 --> 00:23:06.515 him fast you don't know the air 621 00:23:07.715 --> 00:23:09.935 why not ride into that reset i'm 622 00:23:09.935 --> 00:23:11.132 off i'm on i'm off i'm on 623 00:23:11.132 --> 00:23:12.545 i'm off i'm on cause i'm shooting 624 00:23:12.545 --> 00:23:14.855 something close and fast i might be 625 00:23:14.855 --> 00:23:16.745 running the reset if i'm shooting seventy 626 00:23:16.745 --> 00:23:19.265 five yards i don't take a lot 627 00:23:19.265 --> 00:23:21.605 of those shots and i'm pretty sure 628 00:23:21.605 --> 00:23:23.855 that jeff cooper wasn't that wasn't concerned 629 00:23:23.855 --> 00:23:25.715 about the audible tactile reset in a 630 00:23:25.715 --> 00:23:27.845 nineteen eleven when he you know 631 00:23:27.883 --> 00:23:29.615 invented the modern technique he was just 632 00:23:29.615 --> 00:23:31.565 like recent the trigger and then shoot 633 00:23:31.565 --> 00:23:33.155 the gotta get you know he was 634 00:23:33.155 --> 00:23:35.585 much more concerned about what happened after 635 00:23:35.585 --> 00:23:37.205 you let go of the trigger and 636 00:23:37.205 --> 00:23:39.302 pressed it you know firmly and pressed 637 00:23:39.302 --> 00:23:40.805 it straight back and part of that 638 00:23:40.805 --> 00:23:42.755 recent thing does come from like you 639 00:23:42.755 --> 00:23:45.215 know yet when i shot bull's eye 640 00:23:45.245 --> 00:23:47.165 and i shot precision pistol yeah you 641 00:23:47.165 --> 00:23:48.035 know cause i am doing this 642 00:23:48.035 --> 00:23:50.195 slow fire shot maybe i don't want 643 00:23:50.195 --> 00:23:51.935 to lose contact with the trigger face 644 00:23:51.965 --> 00:23:55.985 because we're talking about extremely minute areas 645 00:23:56.075 --> 00:23:58.595 of extreme in a new era and 646 00:23:58.655 --> 00:24:00.785 do some myths right yeah excess motion 647 00:24:00.785 --> 00:24:03.185 continues that miss he won't blend you're 648 00:24:03.185 --> 00:24:03.665 talking to 649 00:24:04.685 --> 00:24:06.995 mm i get it from this standpoint 650 00:24:06.995 --> 00:24:10.865 too is ah especially institutions love to 651 00:24:10.865 --> 00:24:12.695 have your finger ride way up here 652 00:24:14.645 --> 00:24:16.685 and people are in a race to 653 00:24:16.685 --> 00:24:18.005 get back to the frame when they 654 00:24:18.005 --> 00:24:20.825 are not done shooting they're not done 655 00:24:20.825 --> 00:24:22.115 yet they should be living in here 656 00:24:22.145 --> 00:24:25.625 cause they're not done shooting and but 657 00:24:25.625 --> 00:24:26.645 they're in a race to get back 658 00:24:26.645 --> 00:24:29.255 here because their institution says that this 659 00:24:29.360 --> 00:24:31.895 is safe also is that a steel 660 00:24:31.895 --> 00:24:33.875 frame and np with an acro on 661 00:24:33.995 --> 00:24:36.575 because that is hard it is i 662 00:24:36.575 --> 00:24:39.425 love this gun the guns amazing think 663 00:24:39.431 --> 00:24:40.745 it goes yeah that goes pretty hard 664 00:24:40.985 --> 00:24:43.985 ah how i wonder why i wonder 665 00:24:43.985 --> 00:24:45.575 why the m and p is not 666 00:24:45.695 --> 00:24:48.005 as much of the conversation as i 667 00:24:48.005 --> 00:24:49.685 mean that the cp three twenty talk 668 00:24:49.685 --> 00:24:50.015 about a 669 00:24:51.155 --> 00:24:52.865 today in things that are bugs that 670 00:24:52.865 --> 00:24:54.095 were sold to us as features i 671 00:24:54.095 --> 00:24:55.715 present to you the st petri twenty 672 00:24:57.275 --> 00:24:59.585 eight of it in utter i'm kidding 673 00:24:59.585 --> 00:25:01.565 guys i i promise you i will 674 00:25:01.565 --> 00:25:03.395 go one episode without ripping on the 675 00:25:03.395 --> 00:25:06.065 m eighteen but not this one because 676 00:25:06.065 --> 00:25:08.825 route anyway continue alright what's your next 677 00:25:08.825 --> 00:25:09.125 one 678 00:25:10.385 --> 00:25:13.685 oh i'm out what's your route 679 00:25:15.305 --> 00:25:16.655 the glock one was kind of my 680 00:25:16.655 --> 00:25:18.635 next one and then that way i 681 00:25:18.635 --> 00:25:20.915 mean there's so many great examples of 682 00:25:20.975 --> 00:25:23.885 things that were you know presented to 683 00:25:23.885 --> 00:25:27.575 us as features that maybe were unnecessary 684 00:25:27.665 --> 00:25:30.905 for more you know or things that 685 00:25:30.905 --> 00:25:33.095 or things that work features that we 686 00:25:33.215 --> 00:25:34.505 here's one this is a thing that 687 00:25:34.505 --> 00:25:35.075 was not my 688 00:25:35.075 --> 00:25:37.055 marketed as a feature but is a 689 00:25:37.055 --> 00:25:39.215 feature to every end user ever and 690 00:25:39.215 --> 00:25:40.985 that slapping the bolt on and hk 691 00:25:41.525 --> 00:25:43.085 the da se ha 692 00:25:44.197 --> 00:25:47.015 says don't do this like they actually 693 00:25:47.015 --> 00:25:48.605 are like please don't slap the boards 694 00:25:48.605 --> 00:25:51.688 and we're all like no why do 695 00:25:52.475 --> 00:25:53.075 do 696 00:25:55.775 --> 00:25:59.225 do yes yeah yeah yeah so that 697 00:25:59.225 --> 00:26:01.205 is not a feature it is actually 698 00:26:01.205 --> 00:26:03.215 that the oh oh i have one 699 00:26:03.215 --> 00:26:04.895 here here's a thing that is presented 700 00:26:04.895 --> 00:26:07.265 as a feature that is that in 701 00:26:07.265 --> 00:26:09.215 many cases is actually a bug but 702 00:26:09.215 --> 00:26:10.385 i don't care because it's cool as 703 00:26:10.385 --> 00:26:13.715 hell anyways and that's tactical lever action 704 00:26:13.805 --> 00:26:14.435 furniture 705 00:26:14.435 --> 00:26:15.065 are we 706 00:26:16.955 --> 00:26:19.085 we have talked about this because you 707 00:26:19.085 --> 00:26:21.035 guys know that i prefer for my 708 00:26:21.035 --> 00:26:24.335 lever actions smelt and you know wood 709 00:26:24.335 --> 00:26:26.375 and all of that stuff but also 710 00:26:26.795 --> 00:26:30.185 ranger point gave me this stock and 711 00:26:30.185 --> 00:26:32.705 four and set that is woodland for 712 00:26:32.705 --> 00:26:35.105 the ar ninety five and it goes 713 00:26:35.105 --> 00:26:36.275 so encourage 714 00:26:36.275 --> 00:26:37.115 doubly hard 715 00:26:38.195 --> 00:26:40.175 the reason for it other than it's 716 00:26:40.175 --> 00:26:41.825 cool and i like it and that's 717 00:26:42.125 --> 00:26:44.555 it got any hate it makes me 718 00:26:44.555 --> 00:26:46.325 happy in certain parts of my body 719 00:26:46.325 --> 00:26:49.565 so it's great but eli and in 720 00:26:49.565 --> 00:26:51.755 a lot of cases it is a 721 00:26:51.755 --> 00:26:53.285 bug not a feature because what you 722 00:26:53.285 --> 00:26:54.605 will see people do is they will 723 00:26:54.605 --> 00:26:55.895 put so if i just put this 724 00:26:55.895 --> 00:26:57.905 furniture on the rifle he doesn't really 725 00:26:57.905 --> 00:26:58.355 change the ha 726 00:26:58.355 --> 00:27:00.004 handling characteristics of the rifle and the 727 00:27:00.004 --> 00:27:02.195 rifles probably still fine if i put 728 00:27:02.195 --> 00:27:04.355 this furniture on the rifle and a 729 00:27:04.355 --> 00:27:06.785 d ball and a weapon mounted light 730 00:27:07.085 --> 00:27:09.095 and a bunch of other stuff that 731 00:27:09.095 --> 00:27:11.075 makes a my you know four and 732 00:27:11.075 --> 00:27:13.535 a half pound thirty thirty suddenly very 733 00:27:13.535 --> 00:27:15.875 muzzle heavy and not nearly as nice 734 00:27:15.875 --> 00:27:18.095 to move around then it becomes a 735 00:27:18.095 --> 00:27:18.425 bug 736 00:27:18.695 --> 00:27:19.925 and i'm not even saying you shouldn't 737 00:27:19.925 --> 00:27:21.665 do that you should do that in 738 00:27:21.665 --> 00:27:23.225 fact you should go to shop rossi 739 00:27:23.225 --> 00:27:24.725 dot com right now and buy some 740 00:27:24.725 --> 00:27:26.675 ranger point precision furniture for your r 741 00:27:26.675 --> 00:27:29.225 ninety five because it's actually pretty dope 742 00:27:29.705 --> 00:27:33.695 but i still get the bug because 743 00:27:34.175 --> 00:27:35.615 it can will will carry out that 744 00:27:35.615 --> 00:27:37.025 one will put an asterisk there and 745 00:27:37.029 --> 00:27:38.585 so it can become a bug 746 00:27:38.675 --> 00:27:40.655 if you do certain things that yeah 747 00:27:40.661 --> 00:27:42.305 for sure it's now make your job 748 00:27:42.335 --> 00:27:45.005 a lot harder but look i am 749 00:27:45.005 --> 00:27:46.775 actually a fan of the kind of 750 00:27:46.895 --> 00:27:50.195 semi tactical lever gun concept but i 751 00:27:50.195 --> 00:27:51.725 think you still need to keep it 752 00:27:51.725 --> 00:27:54.545 slick their guns i like to keep 753 00:27:54.545 --> 00:27:56.315 very slick even if there are dodson 754 00:27:56.315 --> 00:27:57.935 lights on and those are a case 755 00:27:58.415 --> 00:27:58.835 and those 756 00:27:58.835 --> 00:28:02.645 or lever guns which are functionally laying 757 00:28:02.645 --> 00:28:04.655 right like an auto use and you're 758 00:28:04.655 --> 00:28:06.845 fun like the ak is just a 759 00:28:06.845 --> 00:28:09.815 lever gun of of assault or auto 760 00:28:09.815 --> 00:28:11.675 loaders right oh no he said assault 761 00:28:11.675 --> 00:28:15.545 rifle oh no oh no oh no 762 00:28:15.545 --> 00:28:15.905 there 763 00:28:17.195 --> 00:28:20.285 anyway nobody has entered the chat they 764 00:28:20.285 --> 00:28:22.832 will be taking away caleb for sins 765 00:28:22.835 --> 00:28:24.965 again for her saying that and saying 766 00:28:24.965 --> 00:28:26.735 have a banned word i do want 767 00:28:26.735 --> 00:28:28.295 to clarify something to i really do 768 00:28:28.295 --> 00:28:30.185 love ranger point surgeon they're a great 769 00:28:30.185 --> 00:28:32.105 company to work with they do make 770 00:28:32.105 --> 00:28:35.495 really high quality accessories ah and i 771 00:28:35.495 --> 00:28:37.235 think that again if you want like 772 00:28:37.355 --> 00:28:38.645 and it this is the same as 773 00:28:38.645 --> 00:28:40.295 the hammer spare thing for me right 774 00:28:40.565 --> 00:28:42.395 do i think that it's you i 775 00:28:42.395 --> 00:28:44.675 think you should do it no because 776 00:28:44.675 --> 00:28:47.885 i personally do not like it do 777 00:28:47.885 --> 00:28:49.505 will i stop you from doing it 778 00:28:49.565 --> 00:28:51.755 absolutely not will i actively sell you 779 00:28:51.755 --> 00:28:53.045 the thing to do it if it's 780 00:28:53.045 --> 00:28:54.755 the thing that you want i absolutely 781 00:28:54.755 --> 00:28:57.395 will because if you want to put 782 00:28:57.635 --> 00:28:59.165 worried your point precision furniture on your 783 00:28:59.165 --> 00:29:00.665 gun and you think that nature doesn't 784 00:29:00.665 --> 00:29:01.835 look cooler and it gives you the 785 00:29:01.835 --> 00:29:04.685 aesthetic that you want let's gang you 786 00:29:04.955 --> 00:29:06.305 friggin do it and i mean again 787 00:29:06.785 --> 00:29:08.045 i'm going to put these on my 788 00:29:08.045 --> 00:29:10.595 gun because they're woodland and that's god's 789 00:29:10.595 --> 00:29:12.905 camouflage pattern and we should do more 790 00:29:12.905 --> 00:29:15.035 things in woodland so it was you 791 00:29:15.035 --> 00:29:17.345 know is it basically either 792 00:29:17.615 --> 00:29:19.385 the woodland furniture on it or rattle 793 00:29:19.385 --> 00:29:20.585 can my gun and i'm not that 794 00:29:20.585 --> 00:29:21.845 good but a can of spray paint 795 00:29:21.845 --> 00:29:24.605 so woodland yeah i'm i'm not against 796 00:29:24.605 --> 00:29:26.195 rattle getting my gun i just know 797 00:29:26.195 --> 00:29:27.575 like the first one's going to turn 798 00:29:27.575 --> 00:29:29.011 out ugly and i have a pin 799 00:29:29.011 --> 00:29:30.451 which gun i'm willing to make a 800 00:29:30.451 --> 00:29:33.785 really ugly as my testbed yet decided 801 00:29:33.785 --> 00:29:36.335 which gonna want to destroy and i 802 00:29:36.335 --> 00:29:37.715 also really do an internet 803 00:29:37.775 --> 00:29:40.025 do actually i should wait for future 804 00:29:40.025 --> 00:29:42.455 undisclosed r ninety five model and put 805 00:29:42.455 --> 00:29:45.575 in this furniture on that one and 806 00:29:46.055 --> 00:29:48.875 ah yeah so as you guys may 807 00:29:48.875 --> 00:29:50.645 have guessed we're going to expand the 808 00:29:50.645 --> 00:29:52.535 r ninety five line on rossi to 809 00:29:52.535 --> 00:29:54.845 other calendars and i'm looking at one 810 00:29:54.845 --> 00:29:56.375 of the other calibers over there and 811 00:29:56.375 --> 00:29:57.875 we already have forty five seventy 812 00:29:57.875 --> 00:29:59.975 b but this caliber also starts with 813 00:29:59.975 --> 00:30:03.155 a four so just as light kisses 814 00:30:03.155 --> 00:30:06.065 like a thing to think about it's 815 00:30:06.185 --> 00:30:07.835 it's it's over there in the office 816 00:30:08.105 --> 00:30:09.305 and it's it's one of those moments 817 00:30:09.305 --> 00:30:12.635 where so i like i'm looking at 818 00:30:12.635 --> 00:30:14.015 like the paperwork that i would have 819 00:30:14.015 --> 00:30:15.005 to fill out if i wanted to 820 00:30:15.005 --> 00:30:16.685 take a marketing sample home with me 821 00:30:16.685 --> 00:30:17.195 and i'm like 822 00:30:18.455 --> 00:30:20.645 right now i'm the only the only 823 00:30:20.645 --> 00:30:22.445 manager in the building because our director 824 00:30:22.445 --> 00:30:24.425 of new products just left so i'd 825 00:30:24.425 --> 00:30:26.225 have to find another manager to co-sign 826 00:30:26.735 --> 00:30:27.185 pudge 827 00:30:28.875 --> 00:30:30.405 i won't take what helped that guy 828 00:30:30.405 --> 00:30:32.115 stub you know we should do though 829 00:30:32.355 --> 00:30:33.795 and this is just a thought next 830 00:30:33.795 --> 00:30:36.675 time i'm down here i should do 831 00:30:37.125 --> 00:30:39.375 a i should do we should do 832 00:30:39.375 --> 00:30:41.475 i should do a live video so 833 00:30:41.475 --> 00:30:43.395 here get with getting the comments come 834 00:30:43.425 --> 00:30:44.835 visit pretty much it for this episode 835 00:30:44.835 --> 00:30:47.745 thanks for liking sharing subscribing because we 836 00:30:47.745 --> 00:30:48.735 shouldn't do alive 837 00:30:49.215 --> 00:30:52.095 so so in the comments or the 838 00:30:52.095 --> 00:30:53.985 emails or the facebooks or the d 839 00:30:53.985 --> 00:30:55.365 m's or herbert is that you people 840 00:30:55.365 --> 00:30:56.865 reach out to us let us know 841 00:30:56.865 --> 00:30:57.825 if you would like us to do 842 00:30:57.825 --> 00:31:00.825 a live taping where we broadcast the 843 00:31:00.825 --> 00:31:02.745 episode live we also recorded so people 844 00:31:02.745 --> 00:31:04.725 can listen to it later and how 845 00:31:04.747 --> 00:31:06.135 and what how you would like that 846 00:31:06.135 --> 00:31:08.115 to look and also if you would 847 00:31:08.115 --> 00:31:09.195 like me to do alive 848 00:31:09.195 --> 00:31:11.055 five walk around of the of the 849 00:31:11.055 --> 00:31:12.765 tourist 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00:31:41.415 --> 00:31:44.355 support and the care that you know 865 00:31:44.595 --> 00:31:46.275 internet strangers had for him really means 866 00:31:46.275 --> 00:31:47.925 a lot to us so thank you 867 00:31:47.925 --> 00:31:49.455 all for that i thank you 868 00:31:49.515 --> 00:31:51.555 again and thanks for thanks for tuning 869 00:31:51.555 --> 00:31:52.725 in we'll be back next week